Descending from ALEXANDER WISEMAN in 1300 AD
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Sarah Wiseman
Hi there, thank you for sharing your research publicly. I found this randomly online when looking up details about my family. I’m directly descended and my last name is still Wiseman. I grew up in Scotland and my father was even born and raised in Nairn/Forres – we didn’t go far! Always fun to find distant cousins. Hope you and your family are well. Cheers, SW
David Wiseman
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Document 2/8/1 (SEA, i, no. 113)
DESCRIPTION
Richard, bishop of Moray, for William, son of Freskin; has granted ‘Logynanedal’ and ‘Le Logyndykis’ with all lands which rightfully belong to those places, rendering one stone of wax at feast of St Patrick. He has also granted and by the same charter established to church of St Peter of Duffus (MOR) and Andrew, persona, bishop’s clerk, full teinds of that land in perpetual alms, as charter of Bishop Simon attests.
FIRM DATE
15 March 1187 X 1203
PROBABLE DATE
possibly 1190
DATING NOTES
Consecration × death of Bishop Richard of Moray; possibly 1190 as date given ‘miic2 xc. etc.’ (1290), perhaps an error for 1190
SOURCE FOR DATA ENTRY
Scottish Episcopal Acta, i, no. 113
TRAD. ID
SEA, i, no. 113
CALENDAR NUMBER
2/8/1
CHARTER TYPE
Charter
LANGUAGE
Latin
NOTES
Bishop Simon’s charter now lost
Total number of associated factoids: 18
Transaction factoids (4) Relationship factoids (4) Title factoids (9)
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Date Short Summary Primary Witnesses
unavailable Gift of ‘Logynanedal’ and ‘Le Logyndykis’ no
unavailable gift of teinds of ‘Logynanedal’ and ‘Le Logyndykis’ no
15 Mar. 1187 X 1203 Renewal of ‘Logynanedal’ and ‘Le Logyndykis’ yes Augustine of Elgin/ Moray; Brice, dean of Moray (fl.1194-97×1203); Henry, clerk of Bishop Richard of Moray; Hugh, clerk of bishops of Moray; Lambert, chaplain, persona of Kintrae; Robert of Inverness; Robert, archdeacon of Moray (fl.1197×1205); William, son of Wiseman
David Wiseman
Hello I have located documents which appear to push the Wisemans of Moray, Scotland further back in time:
Relationship: Son of Wiseman (father of William)(Familial relationship)
RELATIONSHIP
Son
SUBJECT
William, son of Wiseman
FROM SOURCE
2/8/1 (SEA, i, no. 113)
FIRM DATE
15 March 1187 X 1203
PROBABLE DATE
possibly 1190
DATING NOTES
Consecration × death of Bishop Richard of Moray; possibly 1190 as date given ‘miic2 xc. etc.’ (1290), perhaps an error for 1190
Notice the naming convention:
Document 2/8/1 (SEA, i, no. 113)
DESCRIPTION
Richard, bishop of Moray, for William, son of Freskin; has granted ‘Logynanedal’ and ‘Le Logyndykis’ with all lands which rightfully belong to those places, rendering one stone of wax at feast of St Patrick. He has also granted and by the same charter established to church of St Peter of Duffus (MOR) and Andrew, persona, bishop’s clerk, full teinds of that land in perpetual alms, as charter of Bishop Simon attests.
FIRM DATE
15 March 1187 X 1203
PROBABLE DATE
possibly 1190
DATING NOTES
Consecration × death of Bishop Richard of Moray; possibly 1190 as date given ‘miic2 xc. etc.’ (1290), perhaps an error for 1190
SOURCE FOR DATA ENTRY
Scottish Episcopal Acta, i, no. 113
TRAD. ID
SEA, i, no. 113
CALENDAR NUMBER
2/8/1
CHARTER TYPE
Charter
LANGUAGE
Latin
NOTES
Bishop Simon’s charter now lost
This appears to show the development of the Wiseman surname in Moray, Scotland as separate from the English Wisemans
Showing All Records (11 ) Show mappable results
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Full Name Floruit
William, son of Wiseman 1187 × 1203
Andrew Wiseman, serviens 1226 × 1244
William Wiseman (early 13C) 1226 × 1226
Thomas Wiseman, sheriff of Elgin 1237 × 1262
William Wiseman, sheriff of Forres 1262 × 1286
Adam Wiseman 1285 × 1285
William Wiseman, knight (14C) 1296 × 1309
John Wiseman, esquire 1296 × 1297
Unknown, wife of William Wiseman 1306 × 1306
Gilbert Wiseman 1318 × 1318
Wiseman (father of William)
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